James Ray Trial Blog Day 24: Hot Flashes, Critter Biscuits, and Rubber Deals
With more than 10 days since she last took the stand, Debbie Mercer returned to the Yavapai Superior Court to resume her testimony.
You may remember that she, her husband Ted, and daughter Sarah were the fire tenders at the James Ray imitation sweat lodge on 2009. Debbie’s specific role was to open and close the flap to the lodge when Mr. Ray ordered. She gave compelling and important testimony that Mr. Ray ignored pleas from participants that specific people were “not breathing.” Afterwards, she testified, Mr. Ray sat in a plastic chair in the shade while chaos of his own doing surrounded him.
Early in her testimony, she clarified an answer she gave earlier in the month. She didn’t hear someone say people were “not breathing,” but rather that they were “unconscious.” While the language is significant, her reason for mixing up her words brought my favorite moment of the trial so far.
“I was having a hot flash,” she said sheepishly on the stand.
Mercer, like her husband and Fawn Foster before them, are among a handful of non-participants, folks who worked or volunteered at Angel Valley retreat center. Ordinary people caught in the middle of an international news story, a horrible tragedy, and something they realize is bigger than themselves.
But when Foster uses phrases like “critter biscuits” to describe pest control and Ted Mercer refers to “the big rubber deal” (a large brown covering over the sweat lodge structure), it shows that maybe they are bigger than this event.
They have shown remarkable poise, a hint of detachment from the tragedy, and grace under incredible fire. Those qualities may actually be forcing Mr. Ray’s high-priced lawyers off their game.
Debbie Mercer, following her hot flash comment, was subject to cross-examination by defense attorney Tom Kelly. In that testimony, she admitted she did not remember her interview with police while she was in the hospital (she was feeling nauseated and hadn’t eaten all day and spent the night for observation following the sweat lodge).
Kelly tried to seize on that and using his incredulous “how can that possibly be” tone that he’s relied upon before, attempted to discredit her. That is when she offered that she was in shock, answering what was asked of her and no more, and she couldn’t remember specific details of the brief conversation with police.
Later, when Kelly asked what’s become a standard question of most witnesses about whether people used their “free will” to leave the sweat lodge, Debbie Mercer countered by saying that those who were unconscious or physically weak could not use their free will and, in some cases, Mr. Ray’s words such as “you are more than that” and “you are more than your body” kept people from leaving.
Others have given similar testimony, but two things about Debbie Mercer made her words more powerful. She wasn’t a participant but an outside observer (see detached).
And she had a hot flash.
When this middle-aged jury goes to work and relies on various testimony to make such an important decision, you wonder what will stick with them.
I’ll bet a local woman trying to do the right thing, that lady who had the hot flash, will stand out. And it could be the difference between freedom and guilt for Mr. Kelly’s client.


















